Sunday, January 29, 2006

Eldad Echos Tovya (and vice versa)

MK Aryeh Eldad said: "Disengagement weakened the Palestinian moderates. Fatah lost and the Hamas won because their way forced the Israelis out. The majority of the Palestinians support the Hamas because they believe that the Israelis will eventually be pushed out of all of their territories." "Sharon put the Hamas in power, unilateral disengagement gave the Hamas their power and tripled their force. Hamas said that there is no place for negotiating with the Israelis, they will only understand terror and eventually they will run away. This summer we ran away from Gush Katif and Northern Samaria. We didn’t negotiate; we gave away land for free and handed it on a silver platter to the Hamas." Tovya says: That's why I like Eldad, he is always saying the same things that I am saying. With that being said, MK Eldad is in the National Union party. Our good blogger friend Ze'ev over at Israel Perspectives apparently will be on the National Union ticket for the upcoming election as well. A person with such a great love of our people is well deserving of the opportunity. Remember: A vote for Kadima is a vote for national suicide. Yet a vote for the National Union is a vote for keeping Jewish lands Jewish and retaining our Zionist dream. Consider that when you hit the booth here in a few months.

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Blogger Tova Shulamit said...

I wish that I could vote.. I hope all works out for the Israelis..

1/29/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger ifyouwillit said...

It's chaval that voices like yours from the diaspora can not be here to vote.

1/29/2006 03:58:00 PM  
Blogger Tovya @ Zion Report said...

I agree, but I plan to remedy that. So no worries.

1/29/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Michael Lawrence said...

My only concern is that the word 'no' doesnt really get us anywhere. Political biases aside, shouldnt we be looking for a party with a policy. A policy of 'no' 'no' 'no' doesn't reduce terror or release our boys and girls from having to watch over 3 million people who dislike us a great deal.
Sure Kadima adopts risky policies but has the right really got a viable policy to convince voters?

Michael (

1/30/2006 05:10:00 AM  
Blogger Tova Shulamit said...

Zion i thought you were alread y in Israel or are we referring to moi?

1/30/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger Tovya @ Zion Report said...


With all due respect, Ha'Ichud HaLeumi certainly has a platform outside of the word 'no'.

Their platform is one of fighting terror instead of simply brushing it under the rug.

Most importantly they know that the current 'road map' leads straight to the grave.

With that being said, a policy of 'seperation' that Kadima supports is not a viable policy. The Arabs do not want a seperation from us. They want us removed from their midst... from the river to the sea.

The policy that should be followed is one of Torah principal. You want to be an Arab and stay here? Fine. But you WILL obey our laws and respect our right to exist between those two bodies of water.

And if they cannot accept that? They must be removed from our midst.

War is ugly no doubt, but the fact of war is that one side must always win for their to be peace. It has been that way for thousands of years.

With that being said, I enjoy your blog, and look forward to future discussions.

Be blessed.

1/30/2006 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Kahaneloyalist said...

Michael, you have a point the Right really doesn't offer a altenative. With the exception of Hazit. While you may not like them they at least offer a alternative. To encourage non-Jews to leave Eretz Yisrael.

Tovya, the National Union is highly unstable, besides which they would give up Eretz Yisrael if the people chose it in a referendum. So vote Hazit.

1/31/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Blogger Greg said...

Kahane loyalist: Hazit is not far removed from Kahane Chai and that, with all due respect, is a purely racist organization that I'm sure u belong to.

Hazit, with Baruch Marzel(former Kahane right hand man) and Professor Eidelberg are both good, loyal racists.

Tovya: i know you're an ardent fan of professor Eidelberg but fact is you don't know him like I do. He has his strong points and then again, he's way beyond pure fanaticism...the guy is a pure thug!

Sorry to offend any Kahane loyalists but I really don't care one bit how u feel about me, Eitan.

1/31/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger Tovya @ Zion Report said...

Kahane Loyalist:
No, the Nation Union would not (at least not with the current leadership)... but then again I would have said the same thing about the Likud prior to Bibi's betrayl of Israel.

i wouldn't vote Hazit because they don't tell me how they want to do what they want to do (at least not in a realistic fashion). I would like to solve world hunger, but I don't know how to accomplish that, so I won't promise voters something that I can't deliver.

Wanting to do something, and having the ability to do it are two different things.

I like what Paul Eidelberg says, but I honestly have never met him, so I can't really judge his personal character. But I do know some people personally who do know him and have told me positive things about him. That's all I really know.

1/31/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger Greg said...

Tovya: I actually think he's a decent person, I just got the sense he was a fanatical freak having met him and especially talked to him by phone.

As for Kahane, I have one more thing to say to the Kahane Loyalist:

I respected Meir Kahane(H"YD) as much as I look down upon his modern-day followers. I've witnessed Jewish kids in Hevron breaking the windows of Arab cabbies and then running to soldiers for help. I've seen pictures of Hevron residents(all Kahane "followers") pelting Israeli soldiers(who've done more than they will ever do for the State of Israel) with spoiled vegetables. I've HAD ENOUGH of you folks. You guys make me ashamed to be Jewish-and this is the only instance I feel this way!

1/31/2006 04:01:00 PM  

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